Answers to Frequently Asked Questions and other Trivia.

Last modified: Saturday, 18-Feb-95 19:57:21 PST

General:

  1. What are the origins of rugby?
  2. What is the difference between rugby union and rugby league?
  3. Where is the game played?
  4. What are the major international competitions?
  5. What is the governing body for rugby?

About Playing:

  1. How can I start to play?
  2. Can I wear soccer boots for rugby?
  3. What are the names of the player positions?
  4. Does it matter which side of the scrum is the "loosehead" side?
  5. What is the difference between an openside and a blindside flanker?
  6. What is a "stiff arm tackle"?
  7. Where do I get the coaching CD-ROM?

Trivial Pursuit:

  1. Is it true that the U.S.A. won a gold medal at rugby in the Olympics?
  2. Is it true that President Clinton plays rugby?
  3. Is rugby a holy game?
  4. Who is the most capped International player?
  5. Who has scored the most tries in test rugby?
  6. What was the first international rugby game?
  7. Who has scored the most points in a test match?
  8. What is the oldest rugby club in the world?
  9. What is the largest rugby club in the world?
  10. Who is has the highest career total points in test matches?
  11. Who has refereed the most internationals?

Other FAQ documents:

  1. Rec.sport.rugby FAQ
  2. Rugby on the World Wide Web FAQ
  3. Dave's and Reuben's Rugby and League Phrase Guide

General:

What are the origins of rugby?
Legend has it that the game originated at Rugby school (hence the name) in England, when one of the pupils, William Webb Ellis, picked up the ball during a game of soccer in 1823 and ran with it. Of course the story is most likely apocryphal, since games involving running with a "ball" in hand had existed for centuries before that.

What is the difference between rugby union and rugby league?
Rugby union is (supposed to be) a strictly amateur sport whereas rugby league is professional (at least at the highest level). Both games have the same origin but have evolved so far apart that they are now best regarded as different sports --- though union stars are sometimes sought out by league scouts. Rugby league teams have only 13 players (with two substitutions permitted) whereas rugby union has 15 (and no substitutions, except for injury). Many other rules are different; in particular league play stops after every tackle and so is readily distinguished from union play. Also league does not use the lineout to restart play after the ball goes out.

"Rugby" on this server can be interpreted as referring only to rugby union unless explicitly stated otherwise. A www server for rugby league is operated by

C.G.Russell@bradford.ac.uk
and contains a history of rugby league, including an account of the acrimonious split in 1895 between the two versions of rugby. Chris's server also contains some details on the league laws, which may be compared with the union laws.

Although the intense bitterness harboured by union officials towards league is gradually dissipating (after 100 years!) it is still against the union rules on amateurism for any rugby union player to be involved with league.

Where is the game played?
Rugby is played in well over one hundred different countries. Statistics on major rugby playing countries and minor rugby playing countries show that several million people are active participants. Most European countries now have national rugby sides. The game is also growing in Africa and South America, and it continues to be popular in various places throughout the Pacific region.

Australia are the current rugby union world champions, and the last world cup encompassed teams from England (the runners up), New Zealand (the previous champions), Scotland, France, Canada, Ireland, Western Samoa, Italy, USA, Wales, Japan, Zimbabwe, Fiji, Romania, and Argentina. The next world cup will be held in South Africa in 1995. Qualifying rounds staged around the world have whittled the 1995 participants down to England, France, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Italy, Romania, South Africa, Ivory Coast, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Tonga, Western Samoa, Canada and Argentina.

The structure of the game in most countries is such that there are various levels from club rugby at the bottom, through some district or provincial level, to a national setup with the full national side at the apex.

One important thing about rugby is that it is not just a game for national sides and top players. Many countries start kids playing rugby very young, and there are veterans matches and tournaments around the world for those who continue to enjoy playing until very late in life. In between there are clubs for the serious and social players, most clubs running more than one side to cater for the variations in ambition and ability.

What are the major international competitions?
International rugby currently revolves around a cycle building towards the World Cup, which is staged in different countries every four years. Along the way there are annual matches and long standing fixtures between neighbouring countries. There are also tours of one (or several) international countries by another. Currently France, Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales play each other in an annual "tournament" called the 5 Nations Championship. All sides play each other on various Saturdays between January and March. Wales are the reigning 5 Nations champions, winning 3 of their 4 matches in 1994. Another major international competition is the Bledisloe Cup, played for between Australia and New Zealand. The format of this changes from year to year - sometimes it is decided in a one off test match, and sometimes there are a series of games. There is also a European championship (the FIRA Championship) which is normally dominated by France. There is also an annual game between Canada and the USA in a North American Championship match and an annual competition between Fiji, Tonga and Western Samoa for the South Pacific championship. Many of the local internationals between the "smaller" rugby nations have been included into the World Cup qualifying competitions.

Most countries also have their own internal competitions and national championships. Some also join together to play matches between their various sides. A good example of this is the current Super 10 which involves provincial sides from New Zealand, South Africa and Australia along with the South Pacific Champion (currently Tonga). Another example of international cooperation might be the recent establishment of an inter provincial/district competition involving sides from Scotland and Ireland.

What is the governing body for rugby?
The governing body for rugby is the International Rugby Football Board (I.R.F.B.) commonly referred to as the IRB, founded in 1886. The I.R.F.B. is responsible for deciding international fixtures, revising the laws of the game and other general matters related to rugby such as amateur status of players.

The IRFB typically meets twice per year (normally about March and October).

The game is controlled at the local level by Rugby Unions which are normally organized on National boundaries, though Northern Ireland and Eire play under the auspices of one union and some US clubs near the border play in Canadian unions.

About Playing:

How can I start to play?
Just get in touch with your local club, rugby people are generally very friendly and will be keen to welcome you (or point you to a smaller club which would suit your novice status better).

If you don't know of a local club try searching in the country-specific section, or failing that post a query to rec.sport.rugby.

Can I wear soccer boots for rugby?
Normally, yes. The important thing is the size and location of the studs (i.e. cleats) on the undersole. Basically they must not be too long and must have blunt ends (min. diameter at top = 10 mm) and no sharp edges. (This is all for safety.) A single stud at the toe of the boot is prohibited. Exact details are given in Law 4(3) of the game.

In the US, studs may not contain nails and plastic studs with metal caps are banned, as are American football boots with female studs, i.e. having a threaded post that can become exposed.

Many players recommend that the "tight-five" forwards (i.e. front row and locks) wear particularly sturdy boots with high tops. This is because they tend to get their toes stood on a lot. Loose forwards and backs usually prefer lighter weight boots for greater mobility.

What are the names of the player positions?
The names of the positions vary quite a bit between the various rugby playing nations.

The following is based on the numbering scheme for player's jerseys currently laid down by the I.R.F.B. for International Matches. It is commonly, though not universally, adopted by other teams. (Common variations are the interchange of 6 and 7, the interchange of 11 and 14 or a renumbering of the backline so that the wingers are 13 and 14. The English club Bath omit the no. 13 jersey because one of their players was once killed wearing it. Some English clubs even use letters instead. Further, an interesting story is told about a Scotland vs England match at Twickenham in 1926. King George asked the president of the S.R.U. about the lack of numbers on the Scots players' backs and was informed, "This is a rugby match, not a cattle sale".) Anyway, assuming the displayed numbering scheme:

Players 1-8 are forwards (often referred to as the pack); players 1-5 are sometimes called the tight-five, or front-five, (players 1-3 are the front-row) and players 6-8 are the loose forwards (or loosies), or backrow. Players 9-15 are backs.

            1 2 3
           6 4 5 7
              8

              9

                    10
      11                   12
                                  13
                                         14

                     15

A partial list of the individual position names is:
  1. (loosehead) prop, loosehead
  2. hooker
  3. (tighthead) prop, tighthead
  4. (left) lock, 2nd row
  5. (right) lock, 2nd row
  6. (blindside) flanker, breakaway, (weak/closed side) wing forward, wing break
  7. (openside) flanker, breakaway, (strong/open side) wing forward, wing break
  8. number 8, eightman, last man, breakaway
  9. scrumhalf, halfback, inside half
  10. flyhalf, standoff, first-five (eight), outside half, outhalf
  11. (left) wing (three quarter), winger, wingman
  12. inside centre, second-five (eight)
  13. outside centre, centre (three quarter)
  14. (right) wing (three quarter), winger, wingman
  15. fullback

and we also give a country by country list including the position names in several non-English languages.

As can be seen there is quite a bit of variation. The IRFB has considered standardizing the names but has not moved forward with this proposal. It is worth noting though that the Laws of the Game already define the terms prop and hooker. One problem with standardizing the names is that the positions themselves are not completely standard. For example, many teams play left and right centre rather than inside and outside centre and a few teams even play left and right flankers.

Of more concern than the variation (which could be considered healthy cultural diversity) are some ambiguities and conflicts. In particular the use of "wing forward" for a flanker is not recommended (it's also an archaic term for an obsolete position associated with the old 2-3-2 scrum, popular in NZ in the 1920s) nor is "breakaway" for the no. 8 (some recognising the term as applying only to the flankers). Similarly the use of "halfback" requires caution (it being recognised as applying only to the no. 9 position in some countries whereas others consider both the no. 9 and no. 10 to be halfbacks). One should especially avoid calling the no. 10 just plain halfback, without a qualifier such as "outside". Possibly the worst abuse is the occasional use of "lock" in Australia to refer to the no. 8.

Does it matter which side of the scrum is the "loosehead" side?
The loosehead prop (the one with his head free) always packs down on the left side of the scrum. Many players think this is just a convention. However, although the laws of the game don't have anything explicit to say on this point they are very explicit on the proper method of binding in the scrum. In particular they require the tighthead prop to bind with his right arm outside the left upper arm of his opposing loosehead prop and similarly they restrict what the loosehead prop can do with his left arm (see Law 20(6)(c)). Hence, the laws implicitly require the loosehead prop to be on the left side of the scrum.

(The halfback may put the ball in on either side of the scrum but only an imbecile would not choose the loosehead side because otherwise the opposing hooker would be between him and his own hooker.)

What is the difference between an openside and a blindside flanker?
The openside flanker is the one on that side of the scrum facing the opposing backline. The blindside flanker is on the opposite side, which is normally the narrow side of the field. (They will switch from the left to the right side of the scrum depending on the situation.)

The traditional roles of these two players are somewhat different. Since most of the back play is usually on the open side where there is more space it is usually the openside flanker's job to be the first to the breakdown of play and get his hands on any loose ball (or to cause a breakdown by tackling the ball carrier or otherwise harrying him into error). Thus, at a scrum where the ball has been won by the opposition, he will generally break as soon as the ball is out and make a beeline for the flyhalf who can be frequently seen desperately trying to get a kick away from underneath the body of the openside diving into the tackle. The openside must therefore have very fast acceleration and be very quick over short distances.

The blindside flanker on the other hand must be able to stop a blindside move and if the play goes openside he must then get to the breakdown as quickly as possible where he may be needed to tidy up after the openside. While he must be fast he doesn't need to be as fast as the openside and his role is more of a stabilizer than havoc-wreaker.

What is a "stiff arm tackle"?
A stiff arm tackle is where the tackler tries to knock the player with the ball over using a stiff arm action instead of wrapping his arm around the player's body as required by the laws. It is the same action referred to in professional wrestling circles as a "clothesline". It is particularly dangerous when applied above the neck because it can turn a healthy rugby player into a quadriplegic in an instant. However, a stiff arm action is illegal no matter where the point of contact.

In some parts, a fend (i.e. a hand-off) is erroneously interpreted as a stiff arm tackle. This is not correct; a fend is not a tackle and a fend with a stiff arm (and open palm) is perfectly legal.

Where do I get the coaching CD-ROM?
There is a "virtual reality" style interactive computer teaching and coaching aid for rugby union called Super Coach available in CD-ROM. It is in a game style where you select a question area and then go into play mode --- against the computer or some other player. The computer offers about 5000 questions with animations. If you answer three questions correctly, you score a try. If you answer the next question correctly too you get a conversion.

It can run over a networked CD and supports Soundblaster (though that is not really necessary and the sound quality is not the best).

It is available from

SuperCoach,
P.O. Box 4060, Halesowen
West Midlands, B63 3BJ
United Kingdom
for 39.95 British Pounds. (There is a special price of 14.10 British Pounds for teachers/educational establishments and up to 2 additional copies may be purchased for 12 British pounds. It is rumoured that secondary schools can even get a free CD.) Prices include VAT.

Unless there are two of these things out there, this was produced in conjunction with the RFU and is also available from the RFU shop at the RFU's Twickenham address (phone no.: +44 81 891 4141). They accept Access/Visa/Switch or Delta credit cards.

Trivial Pursuit:

Is it true that the U.S.A. won a gold medal at rugby in the Olympics?
Yes, it's true; the US (current rugby small fry) did win the Olympic gold medal for rugby last time it was competed for and so is the current Olympic champion! In fact the US has won the last two rugby gold medals at the Olympics. Here are the details.

Is it true that President Clinton plays rugby?
Yes; well he has played it anyway. He was introduced to the game while a refug... I mean Rhode's scholar at Oxford. His talents have been reputedly described as "He was by no means athletic, in fact a bit lumpy, but made an excellent second row forward." The Little Rock Rugby club in his home state of Arkansas is trying to make lots of money out of Bill's association with them. They're selling T-shirts with the advertising "We've had Bill on our backs, now you can have him on yours."

Is rugby a holy game?
It must be! Pope John Paul II is a rugby player. In fact he represented Poland at rugby.

Who is the most capped International player?
Phillipe Sella of France has played 104 tests for France and is still going. In second place is Serge Blanco (also of France but now retired) who played (I think) 93 tests. Nobody else comes close to these two.

Who has scored the most tries in test rugby?
David Campese of Australia. (60 I think and he's still playing.) In second place is Rory Underwood (England) with 42, then Serge Blanco (France) with 38 and John Kirwan (New Zealand) with 35.

What was the first international rugby game?
The first international was played in 1871 between England and Scotland. It took place in Scotland at Raeburn Place, Stockbridge, Edinburgh (the site also of the 1994 Women's World Cup final).

Who has scored the most points in a test match?
In the Asian qualifier tournament for the 1995 World Cup, held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, October 22-29 1994, Hong Kong fullback Ashley Billington scored 10 tries for a total of 50 points! The unlucky victims were Singapore who suffered a world record defeat to the tune of 164-13 in the same game.

The previous record was held by Didier Camberabero of France who scored 30 points for France against Zimbabwe in the 1987 World Cup. This feat was equalled by Rob Andrew for England against Canada in a test on Dec 10 1994. (Andrew scored 6 conversions and 6 penalty goals.) These two therefore tie for second place.

What is the oldest rugby club in the world?
Claimed to be D.U.F.C. ......Otherwise known as Trinity College Rugby Club, of the University of Dublin, Dublin, Ireland.....Est. 1834. Official sources though say that was 1854 and that Cambridge University club has a claim from 1839. The first official club was Guy's Hospital Rugby Club (London, England), formed in 1843.

What is the largest rugby club in the world?
This distinction is claimed by Stellenbosch University in South Africa who boast several thousand players. It should be noted though that membership is compulsory for all resident students! Nevertheless they field at least 45 teams in an intra-club, residence-based, league, as well as the regular club teams.

Who is has the highest career total points in test matches?
Michael Lynagh of Australia. The statistics as of 1993 were:
Name            Country Years   Points  Matches Average
M.Lynagh        Aus     1984-93 760     60      12.67
G.J.Fox         NZ      1985-92 573     41      13.98
H.Porta         Arg             530             
S.Bettarello    It              483             
A.G.Hastings    Scot    1986-93 424     45      9.42
D.Camberabero   Fr      1982-93 354     36      9.83
H.E.Botha       SA      1980-92 312     28      11.14
M.J.Kiernan     Ire     1982-91 308     43      7.16
P.Thorburn      W       1985-91 304     37      8.22
J.M.Webb        Eng     1987-93 296     33      8.97
The records for various "landmarks" were all held by Grant Fox:
Points  Games
100     6
200     13
300     18
400     26
He also has the highest success rate (see above) making him arguably the greatest place kicker the game has ever seen.

Who has refereed the most internationals?
Derek Bevan of Wales, with 26 internationals under his belt (6 Feb 95).

pbickers@phys.uidaho.edu

With thanks to Benjamin Clegg, now at

BENC@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU
for many items.