The comp.lang.java newsgroup was recently created for discussion of the Java(tm) Programming Language, writing Java programs, porting the Java Language Runtime, etc. Its charter does not include discussion of the HotJava(tm) WWW browser, although alt.www.hotjava is appropriate for that.
Because these groups now exist, and because of the load on our server and net connection, we want to deemphasize the Java-related mailing lists as a primary means of communicating about Java and HotJava. While the mailing lists have historically been an invaluable means of keeping people informed, they have grown to a size that makes them expensive and difficult to support. The newsgroups are a much more efficient way of providing the same information.
We are thus strongly encouraging people to try reading comp.lang.java and alt.www.hotjava before joining our mailing lists. Use a list as a last resort, for instance joining hotjava-interest if your site doesn't get "alt" groups. If you are currently subscribed to our mailing lists but can get your information via news, we urge you to unsubscribe from the lists.
We are forwarding the java-announce, java-interest and java-porting mailing lists to comp.lang.java, and hotjava-interest to alt.www.hotjava, so news readers won't miss anything.
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Because of the load it imposes on our web server, Java mail archiving was discontinued on August 20. If we can get human and computational resources to maintain the archives they may be revitalized, but we have no current plans to do so. Searchable archives for traffic up to August 20 are still available.
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The archives look bloated because of the little informational blurb we append to each message for the benefit of internal Sun subscribers. Although you will still see that message on individual postings, it will no longer show up in the archive or the digests. Now if we were really smart we would only append the blurb messages going out to addresses within Sun, but we're not that clever yet.
Many thanks to the folks at EIT for making Hypermail available. It is really cool and does its job well. You can find out more about Hypermail at http://wsk.eit.com/wsk/dist/doc/admin/hypermail/hypermail.html.
